Fehler #31694
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Lady Todeswisper - Timer
Beschreibung
Was noch offen ist:
-Sinnvolles Zeitfenster für die erste Salve und die ersten Geister finden(kommt immer zusammen) DONE
-Timer vom DND anschauen DONE
-Timer der Addfähigkeiten anschauen DONE
-In welcher Phase dürfen die Adds welche Fähigkeiten nutzen DONE
-Wann/wie werden Adds wiederbelebt/verwandelt und wann explodieren sie
tl;dr:
25hc
Lady:
With the findings in this ticket and in #30586 we can conclude that shadowbolts need to be changed to a repeat timer of 2 to 3 seconds and that the initial timing of FV should be between 5 and 35 seconds. Ghost timer should always be together with Volley.
DnD could be confirmed to be correct via logs.
Fanatics:
Vampiric Might initial timer is most likely a set value, not a range. We can almost certainly say that this timer should be 15 or 16 seconds.
Dark Martyrdoms occur way too often on RG. Also the timer should be between 6 and 55 seconds, not 18 to 32.
Necrotic Strike repeat Timer needs to be adjusted: Should be 10 to 20 seconds, not 11 to 13.
Shadow Cleave Timer needs to be adjusted: Should be 10 to 16 seconds, not 10 to 11.
Adherents:
init timers are way too high. Should be:
Curse of Torpor: 6 to 10 seconds
Deathchill: 3 to 5 seconds
Shroud of the occult: 12 to 21 seconds
Also these shouldn't have the ability frost fever.
Adds use their abilities throughout the fight.
Zugehörige Tickets
Von Soarion vor mehr als 6 Jahren aktualisiert
- Beginn wurde von 09.06.2018 zu 13.04.2018 geändert
- Nachfolger von Fehler #30586: [ICC] Lady Todeswisper - Timer Frostblitzsalve wurde hinzugefügt
Von Soarion vor mehr als 6 Jahren aktualisiert
- Beginn wurde von 13.04.2018 zu 09.06.2018 geändert
Mögliche Quellen in #30586
Von Sockentester vor fast 6 Jahren aktualisiert
25hc
18.03.10
Timers:
Shadowbolt: 2 to 3 seconds
DnD
initial: 13 seconds
repeat: 29 seconds
repeat: 23 seconds
repeat: 28 seconds
repeat: 30 seconds
repeat: 23 seconds
Frostbolt Volley
Initial: max 6 seconds, probably something around 5 seconds (letzter Shadowbolt war 6 sekunden vorher, sie hört auf Shadowbolt in p2 zu casten)
repeat: 20 seconds
repeat: 21 seconds
repeat: 20 seconds
repeat: 21 seconds
06.04.10
Timers:
Shadowbolt: 2 to 3 seconds
DnD
initial: 20 seconds
repeat: 23 seconds
repeat: 24 seconds
repeat: 30 seconds
repeat: 28 seconds
There's a corruption (or the player got mc'ed) in the logs so the next repeat is missing
repeat: 30 seconds
repeat: 30 seconds
repeat: 26 seconds
repeat: 25 seconds
repeat: 30 seconds
repeat: 24 seconds
repeat: 23 seconds
Frostbolt Volley:
initial: between 12 and 15 seconds (last shadowbolt is cast 15 seconds prior)
=> We can conclude that the repeat timer of DnD and Frostbolt Volley is correct. Shadowbolt is currently incorrect and Frostbolt Volley initial cast needs to be looked at further.
Von Sockentester vor fast 6 Jahren aktualisiert
25 hc
05.10.10
Shadowbolt: 2 to 3 seconds
FV initial: 13 to 16 seconds (last shadowbolt 16 seconds prior)
05.10.10
Shadowbolt: 2 to 3 seconds
FV initial: 20 to 23 seconds
22.09.10
Shadowbolt: 2 to 3 seconds
FV initial: 13 to 16 seconds
08.09.10
Shadowbolt: you get it
FV initial: 9 seconds
13.07.10
FV initial: 15 seconds
06.08.10
FV initial: 11 seconds
18.08.10
FV initial: 10 seconds
29.06.10
FV init: 17 to 18 seconds
28.07.10
FV init: 16 to 18 seconds
29.09.10
FV init: 14 seconds
09.06.10
FV init: 9 seconds
01.09.10
FV init: 9 to 10 seconds
07.09.10
FV init: 21 to 22 seconds
FV init: 12 to 14 seconds
13 seconds
14 seconds
12 seconds
16 seconds
20 seconds
12 seconds
17 to 19 seconds
19 to 20 seconds
20 to 21 seconds
13 seconds
Von Sockentester vor fast 6 Jahren aktualisiert
- Beschreibung aktualisiert (Vergleich)
tl;dr:
With the findings in this ticket and in #30586 we can conclude that shadowbolts need to be changed to a repeat timer of 2 to 3 seconds and that the initial timing of FV should be between 5 and 35 seconds. Ghost timer should always be together with Volley.
Von Sockentester vor fast 6 Jahren aktualisiert
25 hc Cult Fanatic Analysis
07.09.
1. Wave 3 spawn, 1 dies pretty quickly
2nd Wave: 3 spawn all die immediately
3rd Wave: logging Player was MCed
4th to 7th Wave: All die too fast
8th Wave: 2 spawn
Necrotic strike repeat timer:
1. Wave
on Bearface 29 seconds <<<<<<<<<ADD GOT CC'ED so this is skewed
on Loktari 16 seconds
8. Wave: 17 to 20 seconds
Shadowcleave repeat timer:
1. Wave
12 to 14 seconds, doesn't matter which add is which in this case, they all cast it initally at the same time
8. Wave
15 to 20 seconds
Vampiric Might initial timer is set and appears to be 11 or 12 seconds. (These are Melees tho, so they might not have hit them right when they spawned)
All spells are used throughout the fight.
05.05.10
1. Wave 4 Spawn but the logging player gets MCed so this wave is useless
2. Wave 3 Spawn
3. Wave 3 Spawn
Logs then become useless
Necrotic repeat timer:
2. Wave: 11 to 18 seconds
3. Wave: 15 or 16 seconds
Shadow Cleave repeat timer:
10 to 15 seconds
Vampiric Might: 12 seconds and 14 seconds, each wave casting together at the exact same time. (These are Melees tho, so they might not have hit them right when they spawned)
01.06.10
1. Wave 3 Spawn
2. Wave 1 Spawns and dies immediately
3. Wave 3 Spawn and die too fast
4. Wave 4 Spawn logs too cluttered
5. Wave 1 Spawns
6. Wave 2 Spawn
7. Wave 1 spawns and dies too fast
8. Wave 2 Spawn
Necrotic:
5. Wave: 16 seconds
6. Wave: 16 to 19 seconds
8. Wave: 17 to 19 seconds
SC:
1. Wave: 11 to 13 seconds
5. Wave: 13.5 seconds
6. Wave: 14 seconds
8. Wave: 15 seconds
Dark martyrdom: 6 seconds after Spawn
Vampiric Might: 14 seconds, 13 seconds, 14 seconds ,waves casting simultaneously.(It's a hunter every time, so this should be fairly accurate.)
Dark Martyrdom Analysis:
cast after 6 to 7 seconds. Only 1 cast over ~ 10 waves.
cast after ~6 seconds. Only 1 cast over multiple waves.
cast after ~6 seconds. Only 1 cast over multiple waves.
cast after ~ 7 seconds. Only 1 cast over multiple waves.
cast after ~13 seconds. Only 1 cast over multiple waves.
cast after ~33 seconds. Only 1 cast over multiple waves.
cast after ~ 10 seconds and ~14 seconds. 2 casts.
cast after ~15 seconds. Logs seem to be slightly bugged.
casts after ~37 seconds and ~41 seconds. 2 casts.
Von Sockentester vor fast 6 Jahren aktualisiert
tl;dr
Vampiric Might initial timer is most likely a set value, not a range. We can almost certainly say that this timer should be 15 or 16 seconds.
Dark Martyrdoms occur way too often on RG. Also the timer should be between 6 and 55 seconds, not 18 to 32.
Necrotic Strike Timer needs to be adjusted: Should be 10 to 20 seconds, not 11 to 13.
Shadow Cleave Timer needs to be adjusted: Should be 10 to 16 seconds, not 10 to 11.
Von Sockentester vor fast 6 Jahren aktualisiert
Cult Adherent Analysis
06.04.10
Curse of Torpor Repeat timer can be confirmed.
Curse of Torpor init timer: 7 seconds, 8 seconds, 6 seconds,8 seconds, 9 seconds
Deathchill init timer: 4 seconds, 5 seconds, 5 seconds, 4 seconds
Shroud of the occult init timer: 14 seconds, 20 seconds, 21 seconds, 12 seconds, 15 seconds, 19 seconds
22.09.10
Curse of Torpor Repeat timer can be confirmed.
Curse of Torpor init timer: 6s, 7s, 9s, 10s
Deathchill init timer: 3s, 3s, 4s, 4s
Shroud of the occult init timer: 12 seconds, 13 seconds, 14 seconds, 14 seconds, 15 seconds, 10 seconds
Von Sockentester vor fast 6 Jahren aktualisiert
Fkin fed up with this bullshit.
tl;dr
init timers are way too high. Should be:
Curse of Torpor: 6 to 10 seconds | Curse of Torpor is currently getting cast way too few times because of the deathchill spam. Curse of Torpor and Shroud should have higher priority than Deathchill.
Deathchill: 3 to 5 seconds
Shroud of the occult: 12 to 21 seconds
Also whoever gave these fucks Frost Fever is an absolute bellend. They don't use this spell, the instances in logs where they cast this spell on a player is with the reflection of "Shroud of the Occult".
Von Sockentester vor fast 6 Jahren aktualisiert
Dark Empowerment/Dark Transformation analysis:
Insufficient data from 2010 - out of the many many logs in 2010 there was only 1 instance where an add was transformed.
No data from 2009.
No data from 2011.
Von vaeterchenfrost vor fast 6 Jahren aktualisiert
While looking at logs (25nh) also consider the date of
Hotfix (2010-01-05): "The Lady Deathwhisper encounter has seen the following changes in the 25 player normal version: mana pool has been reduced, the health on all adds has been reduced, and Adherents will wait a little longer after spawning before they start casting."
Von vaeterchenfrost vor fast 6 Jahren aktualisiert
Weiß ja nicht wo du suchst /don't know where you were searching for the spells:
But I found more than one 25 heroic Dark Empowerment/Dark Transformation:
1
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/abzl5ypprpol0jih/xe/?s=1126&e=1541&x=spellId%3D70900+or+spellId%3D70901
2
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/f6a377znwelunank/xe/?s=1417&e=1746&x=spellId%3D70900+or+spellId%3D70901
3
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/ikiublkprzh0pue1/xe/?s=780&e=1024&x=spellId%3D70900+or+spellId%3D70901
4
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rnyhwb053jp6bxqn/xe/?s=1384&e=1799&x=spellId%3D70900+or+spellId%3D70901
5
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/3m901oh238fv941t/xe/?s=997&e=1313&x=spellId%3D70900+or+spellId%3D70901
6
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/7hldmw8k8do00v1g/xe/?s=1227&e=1742&x=spellId%3D70900+or+spellId%3D70901
7
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/idwfegnqivxrc5xk/xe/?s=785&e=1130&x=spellId%3D70900+or+spellId%3D70901
8
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/b2k9jsgjwxc5urmd/xe/?s=1225&e=1742&x=spellId%3D70900+or+spellId%3D70901
9
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/93srz9oiyo0jzzth/xe/?s=1375&e=1886&x=spellId%3D70900+or+spellId%3D70901
10
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/mfxew5mdm3orj505/xe/?s=1541&e=1799&x=spellId%3D70900+or+spellId%3D70901
11
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/48fjqhj76x23fpbp/xe/?s=1684&e=2046&x=spellId%3D70900+or+spellId%3D70901
12
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/k5d4q7urst5khrwz/xe/?s=1603&e=2027&x=spellId%3D70900+or+spellId%3D70901
13
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/pswvqogpjeqa8e6r/xe/?s=497&e=757&x=spellId%3D70900+or+spellId%3D70901
14
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/l2wwq65toclxdpja/xe/?s=518&e=778&x=spellId%3D70900+or+spellId%3D70901
15
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r990jgnfr802ixrw/xe/?s=1007&e=1340&x=spellId%3D70900+or+spellId%3D70901
16
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/c6ql9qrug06m8yy7/xe/?s=2205&e=2547&x=spellId%3D70900+or+spellId%3D70901
17
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/a28vcl4cx8qhioxm/xe/?s=1047&e=1480&x=spellId%3D70900+or+spellId%3D70901
18
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/tdfrimj45tnt0vjn/xe/?s=1071&e=1402&x=spellId%3D70900+or+spellId%3D70901
19
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/s9nu6f6x43oed1ws/xe/?s=884&e=1122&x=spellId%3D70900+or+spellId%3D70901
Heroic Bosses pulled by Method from 26-04-10 to 14-07-10 ... Looks like they were quite active in these weeks ;-)
Taken from : http://www.worldoflogs.com/guilds/5549/reports/32/
... don't know how many you need, but hope this helps!
Von Sockentester vor fast 6 Jahren aktualisiert
While looking at logs (25nh) also consider the date of
Hotfix (2010-01-05): "The Lady Deathwhisper encounter has seen the following changes in the 25 player normal version: mana pool has been reduced, the health on all adds has been reduced, and Adherents will wait a little longer after spawning before they start casting."
All logs were from 25hc and were generated after that date anyway.
Seems my query for last night's analysis had an error, prob should stop working tired af. From the logs provided by vaeterchenfrost we can see that our timers for Dark Transformation/Dark Empowerment are most likely correct.
Von Soarion vor fast 6 Jahren aktualisiert
"Ghost timer should always be together with Volley."
We are talking about the initial timer, right? Because that is already the case. After the first volley, the spirit's timer doesn't match the volley's timer anymore.
Von